Re: [tied] Irish word >>mór<< 'BIG' and Romanian >>mare<< 'BIG'

From: patrick cuadrado
Message: 39488
Date: 2005-08-03

Hello you can add

Name Greek :

* Famous by his spear = Egkhesi-mōros

* Famous by her arrow = Ió-mōros

 

In Germanic Name :

Volk-mär, Hlodo-mâr

 

You’ve got too the name “Mero-vingian”

From latin Merovingi descendants of Meroveus. Latinization of O.H.G Mar-wig = Famed-fight

Connexion with Celtic Maro+Uices (Great victorious see Tribal Name Lemouices, Ordouices, Eburouices….)

 

In Slave Name Vladi-měr

 

South Picenian = Múreis

 

Old Higth German = Mâri = Famous

 

And this is a list of Celtic personal name with “maros”=great”

 

            * Adantumaros            : Grand par son désir

            * Adiatumaros            : Grand par son désir   

            * Admaros                      : Le très grand

            * Agomaros                    : Le grand guerrier

            * Anatemori                    : A la grande âme ?

* Anextlomaros            : Le grand protecteur      

* Assedomaros            : Nom d’homme                   = ?

* Ategniomarus            : Nom d’homme                   = ?

* Atepomaros                 : Divinité                         = ?

* Ballomarios                  : Au grand membre (Pénis)

* Belatumarae                 : Nom d’homme        

* Maro-boduus             : Le grand querelleur

* Bomarus                      : Qui a un immense troupeau ?

* Britomaris                    : Le grand juge ?

* Britomarus                   : Le grand juge ?

* Brogimarus                  : Qui a un grand territoire

* Bussumaros                 : Aux grosses lèvres ?           

* Dannomaros               : Le grand curateur ?

* Daogmarus                  : A l’immense bonté

* Diassumari                 : Nom d’homme                   = ?

* Diassumarus            : Nom d’homme                     = ?

* Diastumarus                  : Nom d’homme                   = ?

* Dimarius                      : Le très grand  

* Dinomogetimarus            : Divinité (Mars)             = ?

* Doknimari                    : Grand en poème

* Dumarus                      : Le grand fort

* Ekretumaros               : A la grande terreur

* Ekritomaros                 : A la grande terreur

* Eluiomaros                   : Nom d’homme                   = ?

* Eskingomarios            : Le grand attaquant

* Exkingomarus            : Le grand attaquant

* Karomarus                  : Le grand ami ?

* Kassimara                   : Nom de femme              = ?

* Katumaros                   : Le belliqueux

* Kimarius                      : Nom d’homme                   = ?

* Klumarius                     : A la grande renommée                   

            * Kombaromarus            : Le très furieux

            * Kombogiomarus          : Nom d’homme                     = ?

            * Kobromara                  : Aux grands désirs   

            * Kobrouomarus            : Nom d’homme                     = ?

            * Kombaromarus            : A la grosse tête/Le très furieux

            * Komarus                      : Grand

            * Kunomaros                  : Grand-loup

            * Maroboduus                : Le grand querelleur

            * Marukatou                   : Grand au combat

 

and many more

 

 

 

And City-name

Maro-ialon = The great glade

 

 



Abdullah Konushevci <akonushevci@...> a écrit :
According to Watkins *me:-3 'big' (Contracted from earlier *meH1-). 1.
Suffixed (comparative) form *me:-is-. MORE, from Old English ma:ra,
greater, and <ma:re> (adverb), more, from Germanic *maizo:n. Suffixed
(superlative) form *me:-isto, MOST, from Old English *mae:st, most,
from Germanic *maista-. 3.Suffixed form *me:-ro-, *me:-ri. MARCHEN,
from Old High German ma:ri, news, narration. 4. Suffixed o-grade form
*mo:-ro-. CLAYMORE, from Gaelic <mo:r>, big, great. [Pokorny 4. *me:-
704.]

You must take into consideration rhotasism *s > r.

Konushevci

On 8/3/05, alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I found out that the Irish word >>mór<< is cognate with Romanian word
> >>mare<<.
>
>
> I. >>mór<< Irish word -> adj big; adj great; adj large; adj large-
> scale;
> url:
> http://www.englishirishdictionary.com/dictionary?dict=ie&word=mor
>
> II. >>mare<< Romanian word -> adj big; adj great; adj large; so
> identical
> url: http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=mare&source=
> Note: The DEX's Etymology for the Romanian word is Not OK:
> Lat. mas doesn't fit phonetically and Latin maris means 'sea' so it
> doesn't fit semantically (It's true that the 'Sea' is 'Big' but such a
> basic notion as 'BIG' is cannot be constructed starting from the 'SEA'
> concept as root concept...
>
> So either the Romanian word >>mare<< 'big' is a Celtic word borrowed
> by the Dacians (and next preserved in the Romanian Substratum) or the
> Romanian word (having a Substratum (Dacian) origin) is cognate with
> the Irish word.
>
> Could somebody can post the full derivation from PIE of the Irish
> word...
>
> Thansk and Best Regards,
>   Marius
>
>
>
>
>
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