Re: [tied] Irish word >>mór<< 'BIG' and Romanian >>mare<< 'BIG'

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 39484
Date: 2005-08-03

According to Watkins *me:-3 'big' (Contracted from earlier *meH1-). 1.
Suffixed (comparative) form *me:-is-. MORE, from Old English ma:ra,
greater, and <ma:re> (adverb), more, from Germanic *maizo:n. Suffixed
(superlative) form *me:-isto, MOST, from Old English *mae:st, most,
from Germanic *maista-. 3.Suffixed form *me:-ro-, *me:-ri. MARCHEN,
from Old High German ma:ri, news, narration. 4. Suffixed o-grade form
*mo:-ro-. CLAYMORE, from Gaelic <mo:r>, big, great. [Pokorny 4. *me:-
704.]

You must take into consideration rhotasism *s > r.

Konushevci

On 8/3/05, alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I found out that the Irish word >>mór<< is cognate with Romanian word
> >>mare<<.
>
>
> I. >>mór<< Irish word -> adj big; adj great; adj large; adj large-
> scale;
> url:
> http://www.englishirishdictionary.com/dictionary?dict=ie&word=mor
>
> II. >>mare<< Romanian word -> adj big; adj great; adj large; so
> identical
> url: http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=mare&source=
> Note: The DEX's Etymology for the Romanian word is Not OK:
> Lat. mas doesn't fit phonetically and Latin maris means 'sea' so it
> doesn't fit semantically (It's true that the 'Sea' is 'Big' but such a
> basic notion as 'BIG' is cannot be constructed starting from the 'SEA'
> concept as root concept...
>
> So either the Romanian word >>mare<< 'big' is a Celtic word borrowed
> by the Dacians (and next preserved in the Romanian Substratum) or the
> Romanian word (having a Substratum (Dacian) origin) is cognate with
> the Irish word.
>
> Could somebody can post the full derivation from PIE of the Irish
> word...
>
> Thansk and Best Regards,
> Marius
>
>
>
>
>
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