Re: [tied] Alb. djathtë -- Where does the come from? (the sol

In one article "Studies in Indo-European *oi, *ei" Eric Hamp has a
paragraph "derr and Indo-European Initial", where he explicitly wrote:

"In dealing (FS J.E. Rasmussen) with tha Albanian fate of PIE *sw- I
have reconstructed <derr> 'boar' as a quasi-compound *suH(a)-
(Ha)(e)rsn-o -> -i 'swine male' > *swarsn-i > *därr> derr. Perhaps
*sw- developed > šw (as s in other contexts) > *žw (to ž before voiced
C, cf. goždë) > Žw (africate before semivowel, as in Italian) >*Зw
(sibilant - as in nort Italian) > elimination of affricate, З > medail
z (<(-)dy) but Зw- > *dw- > d- (as in degë, xerk, goždë, xhesh)...

Konushevci

On 6/21/05, alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
> > Alexandru Marius
> > a) I don't forget, I will search for a second example k^s > c or at
> > least g^s > th
>
> Only to clarify my position here. I don't reject also a possible
> derivation:
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> *dek's-wo > djathë
>
> As I have said: we have a 'simple' *dek's- here with a
> termination: -(i)a: or -wo etc...: of course, it is important to know
> the termination too.
>
> So what I want to add here is that also *dek's-wo will regularly give
> *djathë based on the known Albanian Rules (so there is no need 'to
> add' 2 new Rules)
>
> *dek's-wo Derivation:
> ======================
> *dek's-wo > [syllable by syllables; o>a] *dek'-swa > [s/w > zero see
> vajzë, vjehërr, vetë] > Early-PAlb. *dec-wa > [e/in closed syll. >
> ja; k' > c /ts/ ] > Late-PAlb *djac-wa > djathë
>
> I.a. So I could also accept:
> a) s/w > zero
> b) k^ > c > th
> (to go on in two steps only with the known rules)
>
> I.b in place of :
> b) k^s > c > th
>
> Note: The final conclusion if is: I.a or I.b it will depend if I will
> find or not the second example :)
>
>
> In conclusion: what I put in cause here are Piotr's Rules:
> ==========================================================
> a) k^/s > zero
> b) sw/e > th
> with no other examples in Albanian ....
>
> Best Regards,
> Marius
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