I.
> >>From here Piotr please revise it, doesn't sound very good:
> > a) the exsitance of w in djathë is a pure supposition
>
> No, it isn't. If you reject the extra consonant, the <ja> is
> inexplicable (before a single Proto-Albanian consonant we'd get
<je>).
I don't reject the closed syllable. It result regulary based on ja.
This is ok.
So: the PAlb form was *dec-sV-
But from here to suppose : V=w the answer is: 'it could be, it
couldn't be'.
Also a reshaped form like PAlb *dec-sa: (a: > ë with a long a: that
will keep alive the ending ë in today Albanian (even in the initial
PIE forms we have an -i) cannot be ignored.
Next based on this supposed w -> swa to propose a th...
And you expect me not to haver doubts here?
At least I need to see another example to can trust.
Note: I agree that there weren't any: *dek^s(i)no- and *dek^s(i)tero-
, I was the first to say (I mean in this discussion) that we have
here a 'simple' *dek^s-)
II.
> > d) *sw > *Tv > T is impossible.
> Why should it be impossible? Because you think so?
It's not that I like or not or I think or not...
For any supposition you (...me, everybody) need to have at least 2
solid examples/derivations. Otherwise...is not enough regarding the
used method:
*swe > *wes -> 1 supposed example
*dek'-swo > [k'/s > zero, swa > th] > *djathë -> 1 supposed example
with 2 Rules k'/s > zero, swa > th constructed only based on this
example?
III.
> > c) *sw > *zw > *Dv > Mod.Alb. d. is unprobable despite djell
> > (I will come back here -> in djell we have a protethic d,dh <
*dz)
> What on earth is "prothetic d"? And what about <dergjem>, does it
show a
> prothetic /d/ too?
I will come back with a more detailed discussion here, because this
supposed *sw > d (based only on djell, dergjem and dirsë) need a
closer investigation.
I think that the Rule is: s/w > zero everywhere based on vetë, vajzë,
vjehërr and also vatër (vatra I added it here but I will not re-open
the discussion)
The prothetic d(h) < PAlb *dz in Albanian
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I present 2 cases (to respect the rule):
a) dh- in dhelpër 'fox' is a prothetic dh- PAlb. *dz + *wo:lpa-na
*wo:lpi-na or something similar where we can easy identify the PIE
root for 'fox' etc..if we will remove the initial dh-
b) dh- in dhemje is a prothetic dh . See:
dhemje ~ vemje <-> Rom. omida < PAlb. wo:mida: 'magot, larva,
caterpillar'. This example for which we have also 2 forms without dh-
one in Albanian and one in Romanian is more than obvious.
Best Regards,
Marius