Re: [tied] Greek+Slavic

On 6/17/05, rex_castilliae_araguensis
<rex_castilliae_araguensis@...> wrote:
Their name comes from

> the word 'Sclavi' (slaves) because they never created their own
> important state before the 9th c. BC. This is probably the best
> etymology i know, because in Byzantine sources they are also
> called "sKlaveni" and "sKlavi". There is another etymology:from
> Slava=glory in slavic. But if that's true why did the byzantines
> included a K in their name or just a 'th' (sklaveni or sthlaveni
> sometimes).

[AK]
I see this as a problem of phontactics. Latin didn't have onset of
cluster /sl/, so they put epenthetic sound /c/, to make it familiar
with their language (cf. *sleiH- 'bluish' > lividus 'id.', but Slavic
<shljiva> 'plum'). This Latin form was preserved also in Albanian
<shkja/shqa>, but <shkinë> from <sclavina>, due to VDV = D.
I prefere Jakobson's explanation of Slaveni from <slovo> 'word,
letter, fame' from PIE *k'leuH-os.


Besides, they appeared near the Greeks after the 9th

> century. the peoples came in contact from that point and on.
> so, sure there are common IE words in both languages, but in the form
> of COGNATES, that differ a lot (ex. Gignosco, Znayu). Most common
> words in these languages are because of loanword-flows. (greek and
> bulgarian: tsigara,ela!, hartija, kutija, vlastar, piper etc from gr
> to bulg).

[AK]
As you may see from example above PIE palatals /*k'/ > Sl. /s/ and
/*g'/ > /z/, so *gno:- 'to know' yields regulary Sl. <zna-ti> 'id.'
(*g' > Sl. /z/ and /*o:/ > /a/), Alb. <njoh> from e-grade form
*g'ne:sk'o.

> panos

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