[tied] Re: sum

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "elmeras2000" <jer@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
> wrote:
>
>
> > How is
> >
> >
> > volo:
> > vi:s
> > vult
> >
> > volumus
> > vultis
> > volunt
>
> It's the root-aorist subjunctive to go with Skt.
> vr.n.i:té 'chooses', aor.sbj. varas, varat. That is IE *wélH-e/o-
> yielding, first, *welo:, *weles(s)i, *weleti, *welomos, *weletes,
> *welonti, whence by elimination of thematic -e- and retention of -

o-

> , the pre-Lat. input
>
> *welo:, *wels, *welt, *welomos, *weltes, *welont.
>
> In the 2sg there was assimilaton ls > ll (cf. inf. velle). In the
> other forms el > ol (works for single /l/ not followed by /i/).

Then

> ol > ul before consonant (as multus). That gives:
>
> volo:, vel, vult, volumus, vultis, volunt
>
> The 2sg vel is retained in the meaning 'or' ("if you will"). As

part

> of the verbal paradigm it was renewed by the addition of the

ending -

> s, and /vell-/ + /-s/ with a specifically front l apparently gave
> *veis whence vi:s (thus Cowgill). Others combine vi:s with Skt.
> vés.i, 2sg of véti 'go for, chase' positing IE *wei(H)-si.
>

With your permission (or maybe not) I will translate that to semi-
thematic:

*vl-o:
*vél-s
*vél-t
*vl-ómos
*vél-tis
*vl-ónt

which I now know is wrong; my (your) hunch that the ablaut vowel is
-o- before voiced sound triumphs again, thus:

*vl-o:
*vól-s
*vól-t
*vl-ómos
*vól-tis
*vl-ónt

or how else would you feed an -o- to the -ol- > -ul- rule?
(But then ther's 'velle' and the vel- in the subjonctive etc, and
suddenly I'm in doubt again, maybe someting about voiced + heavy
syllable, ie -oC1C2- if C1 voiced?).

Torsten