Re: Latin *accu ? - > and the 'LATINIST' Method

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 38329
Date: 2005-06-04

> Alexandru Marius wrote:
>P.S. I really don't know if is still necessary to analyse further
>Miguel proposal and to continue with Miguel derived forms in
>different Latin idioms (some of them 'forced' derivations) ...if we
>need to start based on a such initial semantism that is an "ad-hoc"
>one.
>To take a similar example: such an alambicated semantism for a PIE
>dem. pronoun like 'this' / 'that' will be never accepted ...
>But in the 'Latinist' world (where we have more than 80,000 Latin
>attested words) 'we' derived the basic dem. pronouns forms of the
>Latin Derived Languages based on unattested form *accu and based on
>an 'incredible' alambicated semantism: 'rather here it is that one'


I want to resume here the 'Latinist' method used to obtain Rom.
acesta etc...I will try to resume the method in order to can detect
this 'method' in advance for now on....

'LATINIST' METHOD:
===================
1. Let's put togheter the forms of some idioms 'acesta, aquel': so
we need an A, a C and maybe an U to can next combined with iSTA/ISTA
or with ILLA/ILLU
2. ok, so is ACCU ...
3. unfortunately is not among the 80,000 attested Latin words => ok
so is *ACCU in this case.
4. Let's now find a good source for accu : lets find 2 words that
if we combined them we obtain *accu ...oh, is difficult...
5. lets try to find a closer phonetism and next to apply a
syncopation etc...ok...let's take (the always present) ecce and we
need another one...oh, is difficult but let's take atque ...
6. Let's apply now a syncopation based on this 2 words ...ok, it
will be hardly to say that this syncopation is not possible : it
could happened (even it wasn't the case...)
7. Ok. so *accu = atque ecce
8. But the semantism? Doesn't matter here...we already added ISTA...

=> SO HERE IS THE RESULT :
Rom. ACESTA eng. 'THIS' = ATQUE ECCE+EUM ISTA = *ACCU ISTA
eng. 'rather here it is that one'

=> LAST STEP:
FROM NOW ON, THIS ALAMBICATION WILL BECOME A 'LATINIST DOGMA':
"Who will not trust in this derivation is an ignorant!!!"

Best Regards,
Marius Alexandru