Re: [tied] the final "-u" it was ( ..... Verb Endings and Substratu

From: alex
Message: 38318
Date: 2005-06-03

Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
> The only relevant item you presented was acolo, but that
> comes from a syncopated form accu (i)ll�c, so it's not in
> fact a example of /ku/ (> /kw/ > /k/) before vowel.
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...



no. the final "u" is there even in gerundium is stil present when the
position of the pronoun is inversed. Normal gerundium is "spunand" but
"spunandu-tsi" (telling you), so see the "u" as ligature vowel here.

I gave evidence from the living language which shows the preservation of
the "u". And that speaks for the facts in language more as a such or
such scenario.

Apparently, due Alb. "s" for an older "c^" one should consider safe to
assume a preroman form with "c^" and one can put the knowledge of
current scholarship in some steps:

1) in Pre Roman times, people in Balkan spoke with "c^est" for "this"
2) Romans arrives, people get latinised, they abandoned the language
adopted Latin as language and said "quest" for "this"
3) several centuries later Latin "quest" became in the mouth of these
people "c^est"


A neutral view will say it appears as self evident that step 2 is
artificialy there.


Alex


P.S.

Latin "locum" > "loc" ; the "c" is present there, thus "acolo" cannot be
from the sugested form *accu(i)lloc




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