[tied] PIE *y > Alb. /z/ (was Re: Romanian Verb )

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 38313
Date: 2005-06-03

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
wrote:
> Abdullah Konushevci wrote:
>
> > I hope that you will agree about PIE *mu:s > Alb. mi 'mouse',
where
> > the loss of /s/ is so obvious and long stressed *u: > Alb. /i/.
> > If we agree that in PIE word *su:s- 'pig' we have a
dissimilation in
> > distance s - s > k' - s, than we have another example *k'u:s >
Alb.
> > thi 'pig'.
>
> But this loss is restricted to word-final *-s. In verbs, the root-
final
> *s would have been protected by the inflectional ending (always
there)
> and the stem-forming elements (if any).

[AK]
Rather than the lack of /s/ we may accept rule *s > j, so *yes >
Alb. <ziej> 'to boil, cook' is regular: *y > Alb. /z/, /*e/ > Alb.
ie and /*s/ > /j/.
I remember that it was first mentiond this etymology by Mr. Rasmusen.

> *wik^ah2- + *-pot-/*-potnih2 > zot 'lord', zonjë 'lady'.

[AK]
I don't know why not from *dye: + pti > zot: *dy>z, *pt > tt >t

> > Despite the fact that he has completly different view about
these
> > etymologies, I appriciate to much two new etymologies, regarding
> > Alb. adjective <(i,e) zi> 'black' form PIE *i:l (beter *i:li >
zij >
> > zi:) and <zall> 'gravell' from PIE *ie:lo, attested in Croatian
as
> > <3^al>.
>
> I don't recognise these PIE words.

[AK]

*i:l-, i:lu- "dirt, black" (pp.499)
*ie:lo:-, yHlo- "unripe, raw" (pp. 504-505)
> Piotr

Konushevci