Re: [tied] sparrow

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...>
wrote:

>
> *s-per-
>
> Latin parus[titmouse]
>
> Latinparra [sea eagle]=Umbrian parfa(<pareza:]
>
> Grk sporgilos, spergoulos, psar [sterling]
>
> Old Prussian spurglis [sparrow],spergla-
>
> OHG sperche
>
> Celtic sprawos [sterling, jackdaw]
>
> Germanic sparwaz [sparrow]
>
>
> tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> Gamkrelidze/Ivanov on sparrows:
>
> Gothic sparwa
> Hesych sparásios
> Epic Greek psé:r
>
> Suddenly Latin 'passer' makes more sense. Does that mean the root
> started with ps- ? I think Georgiev assigned all Greek words with

ps-

> and ks- to a substrate language.

Beekes: Pre-Greek. A Language Reconstructed
http://www.indo-european.nl/ied/pdf/pre-greek.pdf
identifies some features of Pre-Greek, a substrate language in
Greek. Among the alternations he identifies is (6a, b) -ps-/-sp-, -
sk-/-ks-: aspínthion/apsínthion, osphu~s/psúai.
He proposes also a complete complement of palatalised and labialised
consonants, so *psarWa-/*pserWa- would be possible (a/e alternation
is there too). The -g- in Baltic could have come about from -w- as
in Slavic adj.m.n.sg. -ogo, -ego.
Beekes thinks *-ps-/*-sp- comes from *-cp-.


Torsten