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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:
> 1. Alb. sonte 'this night' > PAlb *tsja: *nakta < PIE k'ja:i
> nokWti
for making more visible here one should show the whole way of the
apparition of "sonte" in Albanian:
*tsja *notë > so natë > sontë with the simply reduction of
"a" in "natë"
the reduction of "kt" cluster to "t" did happen before Roman's arrival
but we are stil not able to say if the change of "kt" to "pt" did
happen too before this time.
> To talk now about the words as they can be fpound in Romanian and
> Albanian dictionaries we have:
> 3. Rom. cea /c^ja/ - Alb so < PAlb: *tsja: /cja:/
> 4. Rom. acea /a-c^a/ - Alb aso < PAlb: *a tsja: /a cja/
we have to consider in this situation the phonetism of Aromanian as
being one more appropiate of the Albanian due "tsea" which is today in
Aromanian for DacoRomanian "cea" since I don't believe in an ecuation
as :
*k^ajo > PAlb *tsajo > CommonRomm cea (actually state of affairs in
DacoRomanian) > Arom tsea
Apparently the logical way is :
*k^ajo > UnknonwBalkanLanguage c^ea > PAlb *tsja:
From PAlb *tsja, the word developed in Aromanian as "tsea" and in Alb.
"so". The DacoRomanian phonetism should be the one who was prior to
ProtoAlbanian or we have to show the change of "ts" to "c^". Since
almost all the words in Rom. which are to find in Alb. have an "older"
phonetic form, thus, from these forms is easy to derive the ProtoAlb
forms, I guess there is no need to try to show "ts" > "c^".
>
> Now finally to say how much in an expression like the one above is
> from Latin than from Proto-Albanian or inverse we can never know:
is
> better to say that is from both and is due to the long interaction
> between an "Albanoid" Local Population and the Roman Empire,
> sometimes due also to some closer PAlb / Latin forms in some cases.
>
> Best Regards,
> Marius
Some things are sure:
- these are IE-words;
- the phonetic changes are not of Latin origin here
- the phonetic changes did happen long time before Romans enteed
Balkans
- DacoRomanian phonetism is the oldest one can trace from the deducted
IE-forms to the deducted ProtoAlbanian forms.
Alex