Re: [tied] Root of "marten," "sable"

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "C. Darwin Goranson"
<cdog_squirrel@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> wrote:
> > Or Perhaps Germanic was originally Satem? k^>s^>X>h ?
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> wrote:
> > stoat < *stait- <*stoid, akin to Greek ktis, iktis "weasel"?

*k(s)tid- ?

>
> I'm going to hope your responses are meant in seriousness.

They all are, though Alex confused 'sable' the animal with the
continental cognates of 'sabre'.

> hundred/hundert > hund > khund > k@... (@ = schwa). It's a centum
> one. The PIE is kh'mtom, if my memory serves me right.

Germanic has so much in common with Balto-Slavonic that some feel it
ought to be a satem language. However, 'de-satemisation', which was
discussed here a few years ago, seems too far-fetched. The best
analogy to that idea seems to be Danish, where de-palatalisation had
some odd effects on at least one French loanword.

Incidentally, we usually use the non-glottalic theory orthography for
PIE, so *km.tom for '100'. Also, we use for '&' for schwa, because
the part of a word following '@' is mangled in the archives to hide
e-mail addresses.

> As for the stoat hypothesis, it seems a bit of a stretch. If *stoid
> were the root, mightn't "stolid" arise from it? THAT's possible,

No. Moreover, "stolid" comes from Latin _stolidus_.

Richard.