Re: Balkan Claims(was: Unknown)

From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 37828
Date: 2005-05-12

--- In, "daniel prohaska" <daniel@...>
> [AK]
> >>What proof you offer that Albanians are not the descendents of
> >>Illyrians? I prefere much more wishful thinking if we compare it
> >>with your hateful thinking.
> What proof do you offer that Albanians ARE the descendents of the
> Dan
As has brilliantly proved by W. Cimochowski, Balkan Illyrian is all
chances to be satem language.
Here are the evidences of output of PIE /k'(h)/ > Ill. /s/ or /ss/
or /z/.

A. Geographic names

1. Place names: Asamon, Asamum, Asamo (N.Jokl, ER 6, 41; A.
Mayer, Spr. ILL, 2,14.), station in the north of Epidaurum, in 1272
document calqued as Lapada;
2. As-naus mons ("rocky mountain") (A. Mayer, ibid);
3. As-er-ia, town in Dalmatia (H. Krahe, Geogr. N. 16,59, A.
Mayer, ibid;
4. As-in-jone (H.Krahe, Geogr. N. 16, 59, A.Mayer, ibid) Rav.
4, 19 coastal town in Liburnia and tribe name Az-in-ates;
5. Aas-ine (N.Jokl, Er 6, 40. A. Mayer, Glo 24, 169 u. Spr.
Ill; 2,4.), town in Argolis, founded by Dyrropoi, close to which is
today Petrobouni;
6. As-amus river name (Moesia superior), today Osma and castle
An-as-amus that is in the bank of mentioned river.
All these names, according to Cimochowski, contain Indo-European As-
ak'- `sharp' (cf. Skt <asma> `rock, stone', lit. ashmus `edge').
7. Parthinoi, tribe name and Parthos, their city was connected
by Jokl with Skt <parsuh> `hillside, rib'.
8. Hesik's gloss <sarsai hamaksai>, without ethnicity, is
treated as Illyrian and related to Lat. <curro>, lit. karshiu `to
hurry up'.

B. Personal names:
1. Dasimius, Dasumius, Daksima (M. Schmidt, Pers. Lex., 35) compared
with Lat. Decimus, probably from *dek'm.- `ten'.
2. Sirras was explained by Ribezzo from *sirios and was connected
with Greec Kirros `yellow to red' and with Old Bulgarian
<serb> `grey'.
I will add here the Panonian tribe names Oseriates < *eg'hero-
`lake', discussed also in Cybalist.
Evidences for output of PIE /*k'/ > Ill. /k/
1. Kandavia, Candaviae montes, mountain zone between lake of
Ohri and rivers Devoll and Shkumbin, connected usually with Kandaos,
Kandaon Kynagies, has in first part of compound the element can- <
*k'won-, that I have explained from zero-grade extended form *k'wn.-
to that yields Alb. <qen> `dog' < *kani < *kanni < *kand-i, deu
to /*n./ > Alb. /a/ and *nt > nd > nn> n, that explains the lack of
rhotasism in Tosk dialect. Piotr's argument that /n/ was in end
position, so it was not in intervocalic position to be affected by
rhotasism is fals (cf. Greek loans: Geg. lakën `cabbage', Tosk.
lakër < Gr. lakhanon or Geg moken `millstone' Tosk mokër < ma:khana,
like Geg frashën Tosk frashër < Lat. fraxinus `ash, ash-tree' etc.).
2. Kerketion oros (A. Mayer, Spr. Ill., 186), moutain zone
between Thesalia and Epirus, today Belešika-Planina and Kerkine
(Thuc. 2.98).
3. Islands Kerkyra and Korkyra, today Korfuz and Korchula. I
have derived exactly Alb. <qarr> "Adriatic oak, European Turkey'
from Kerkyra, for <*e> in closed syllable yields in Alb. /ja/ and I
can't see any barrier why not –rkW can yields Alb. /rr/ like *rw >
rr: kerkw > kjarr > qarr due to regular palatalization of velar
followed by palatal glide /j/.
4. Korko:ras, river name, today Gurk, was related by Krahe with
Skt <sarkara> `grit, gravell' (Krahe, Panonia, 289)
5. Clausal (Liv. 44,31) river near Shkodra with root *k'leu-,
Greec <khlizo> `wash out', lit. sluojo `to wipe' (IF. 58, 222. Spr.
Ill, 1, 103.)
6. Cornacum, station in Danub's road, today Sotin, was related
by Krahe with Skt. srngam `horn'.Due to my metathesis of liquids, I
think that primary form was Cronacum and thanks to the shift of
accent in penultima, we have Cornacum. Probably from *k'er- `horn'.
7. Also Trikhornion was related to Sanskrit word.
8. Acu-mincum, Akoumigikon Ptol. 2, 15, today Slankamen related
to lit. akmuo `stone'. (F. Solmsen, Beitr. Zur gr. Wbrtforschung, 1,
9. Peuketti, Peuketioi, Liburn tribe, related to tree name
<peuke> `fir-tree', Old Prusian <peuse>, lit. <pusis> `id.' (N.
Jokl, ER, 1, 90)
To be continued