Re: Italo-Albano-Romanian Parallels (was: Daco-Romanian theory)

>Language shift is normal, so is language retention.
>You can't refute the one by pointing to examples of the other.

Maybe, but to suppose 2 shifts <<that parts of Balkans Latins
speakers 'goes back' and shift to Albanian>> is SF.

Seems that you are 'more related' to "environmental" theories...

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "pielewe" <wrvermeer@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
> >
>
>
>
> > that is the tragedy of linguistic models when we compare them
with
> the
> > real life. On your assumtion, the minorities in the actual
national
> > states should be long, long time dead. That is not the case since
> we
> > have these minorities stil living even despite the power of
> assimilation
> > underlying to the modern state and society.
>
>
>
> It is a matter of record that lots of languages died out in the
Roman
> Empire, particularly in the Latin-speaking part. The only languages
> to have survived, if I'm not mistaken, are Basque and the
> predecessors of Albanian and Welsh/Cornish/Breton, all spoken in
the
> mountains, all full of Latin loans. Obviously social conditions
were
> such that language shift was irresistable except in mountainous
areas
> and even there Latin was ubiquitous. Conditions as obtaining in the
> Roman Empire cannot be transplanted to other places and other eras
> and vice versa. Language shift is normal, so is language retention.
> You can't refute the one by pointing to examples of the
other.
>
>
>
> Willem