Re: Italo-Albano-Romanian Parallels (was: Daco-Romanian theory)

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 37698
Date: 2005-05-06

> Richard:
>Strikingly, numbers 1 (as kt > tt), 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13 and 14
>are also shared with Italian.

You are almost right. With a single note here: The phonetism that I
presented is that one around 300 - 500 AC. At Rome at that time -kt
for example was still present. I have also some doubts about ns>s in
Italian. Io penso che 9. -ns- is still present in Italian and seems
to be an old phonetism (even I'm not 100% sure, please corect me if
I'm wrong).

Finally: ok let's say: 10/14 = 71%. Here the result is normal:
Romanian is a Latin Language. And Italian is the closest Latin
Language for Romanian.

But on the other side we have: 14/14=100% :) (I know the
computation contains a little trick but the main ideea is a correct
one):

Now the Point here is that Albanian is not at all a Latin Language.
Despite this as I said once to Miguel the Proto-Romanian Phonetism
was closer to Proto-Albanian one than to Latin.

Probably a similar case with my today English phonetism: you can
easy guess that my 'english' phonetism is closer to Romanian than to
English :).

Isn't strange to detect such huge similarities between a Latin
Language and Albanian? Only long contacts ?

This ideea remember me some guys that appreciate that the medium
has a great influence to an individual that his genes...
(please don't understand from here that the phonetism is in our
genes)

Best Regards,
Marius




--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham"
<richard.wordingham@...> wrote:
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"
<alexandru_mg3@...>
> wrote:
>
> > V. I want to add here some Proto-Albanian - Proto-Romanian Common
> > Phonetic Rules indicating a genetic linked between Romanian-
> > Substratum and Proto-Albanian one:
> >
> > 1. kt not available in both languages (Lat. kt > pt > ft,
jt)
> > 2. e > je - je
> > 3. dy > dz - dz (later di > dz became general in Romanian)
> > 4. ty > ts - ts (later s in Albanian)
> > 5. sj > sh - sh (later s>sh became general in Albanian)
> > 6. an > ãn - ën (and also non-stressed vowels mainly a->
ã)
> > 7. cl > cl' - cl' (later che - q )
> > 8. gl > gl' - gl' (later ghe - gj )
> > 9. ns > s - s
> > 10. gn not available in both languages
> > 11. common presence of sound like c^, g^, 3, c , &
> > 12. ky > c^ - q (even the assybilation has different
degrees)
> > 13. gy > g^ - gj (even the assybilation has different
degrees)
> > Note: as an argument: Aromanian has only c, 3 for ky, gy)
> > 14. dl, tl not available (reduced) in Both Languages.
>
> Strikingly, numbers 1 (as kt > tt), 3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13 and 14
> are also shared with Italian.
>
> Richard.