Re: [tied] Albanian as a satem langauge

> This Luwian "z" was pronnounced like "ts" or "z" ?
>
> Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> escreveu:mkapovic@... wrote:
>
>> Could you yield more information on the last point? On the non-satem lgs
>> with traces of *K - *K' distinction, I mean. Thanks,
>
> I had two things in mind:
>
> (1) The tendency of the "plain" *K series to colour an adjacent *e to
> *a, visible also in the non-satem remainder of IE.
>
> (2) The possible distinction between reflexes of *k and *k^ in Luwian
> (both cuneiform and hieroglyphic). According to Melchert, *k^ > z,
> contrasting with both *k and *kW. The showcase examples are <za:rt->
> 'heart' and *zuwani- 'dog'.

Oh yes, but I would not really consider Luwian a centum language. I think
it's pretty sure that Luwian (and Lycian) show distinct reflexes of the
three series and prove that PIE really did have *K - *K^ - *KW. One could
also add Luwian za-/zi- < PIE *k^o- "this", Luwian zi:- < PIE *k^ey-
"lie", -zza- < PIE *-sk^e-, azuwa- "horse" < PIE *h1ek^wo-, zurani- "horn"
< PIE *k^rn-. This looks rather conviencing and actually I'm just amazed
how people just tend to ignore it. Also, Melchert is quite calm when
talking about it, as if it's just a trivial thing which is not really very
important for the reconstruction of PIE.

Mate