From: Abdullah Konushevci
Message: 37114
Date: 2005-04-12
On Apr 11, 2005 7:17 PM, Joao S. Lopes <josimo70@...> wrote:
> About Ant:
>
>
>
> *morweH2 [formiga]
>
> Greek myrme:x,Myrmidon
>
> Latin formica[*mormica<morvica]
>
> Sanskrit vamra[*marva], valmika[varmika <marvika]
>
> Avestan maoirish
>
> Old Slavic mravi-
>
> ON myrr
>
> Old Irish muirb
>
> Armenian mrjiwn
>
>
>
> *morweH2- is the usual reconstruction. I'm thinking about an alternative
> view:
>
> *morgWm-
>
> *mr.gWmeH2- > murgm- > myrme:x
>
> *mrgWmH- > formica
>
> *morgW-> mrjiwn
>
>
>
>
>
> Sean Whalen <stlatos@...> wrote:
>
> --- "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> wrote:
> > Let me pick three words as example: nyx, onyx, lykos
> >
> > IE *n.kWt- > *nukt- > Greek nyx (nykt-) "night"
> > IE *H3o-n.gWH- > *o-nugH- > Greek onyx (onykh-)
> > "nail"
> > IE *wl.kWos > *wluko- > Greek lykos "wolf"
>
> > My question is:
> > These shifts represent a regular trend in IE>Greek
> > (sonant+labiovelar > sonant+u+velar) or may be loans
> > from another IE language (but very close to Greek)
>
> Are these your own reconstructions? The oldest
> posited forms above create misleading conclusions. I
> think it goes more like this:
>
> nok^t-
> nokt-
> nukt-
> nykt-
>
> H3nogWh-
> H3.nogWh-
> onogWh-
> onogh-
> onugh-
> onukh-
> onykh-
>
> H1ulkWo-
> ulkWo-
> lukWo-
> luko-
> lyko-
>
> That is, there's only metathesis in lukos, but not the
> kind you show. The u in the other words comes from
> rounding/raising of *o between certain consonants
> (usually sonorant and/or round, as in onyma, gymnos-).
>
>
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