Re: [tied] The PCT of Indo-European origins

From: mkelkar2003
Message: 37066
Date: 2005-04-11

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, ND <nmd65@...> wrote:
> These are nothing more than assumptions based upon bad
> history - the problem with many "Internet authors."
>
> History is never static, and I suspect your overriding
> desire is to give exclusivity and priority to "all
> things Indian," which has more to do with the current,
> blinkered "Indocentricism" (misplaced nationalism)
> which India is currently struggling with, rather than
> any concern for historical truth.
>
> To get a perspective on how dynamic the Neolithic,
> Paleolithic, Copper and Bronze Ages realy were, I
> would suggest that you read some of the following
> authors (not Internet-based): Khazanov, Potemkhina,
> Hodder, Kalicz, Bordes, Adam, Behn, Schlabow (a bit
> old, but still good). And it might be good to also
> read Drews. History is about human curiosity, and as a
> rule humans are never content to shut themselves up in
> a cacoon, and they like to move around.
>
> And as for Haeusler, I suspect the reference is out of
> context, especially given the record of his work on
> Kurgan burials.
>
> I would suggest that you approach history not as a
> vast conspiracy theory designed to minimize and negate
> "the wonder that was India," rather that you learn to
> appreciate history as a dynamic force that continually
> merges, blends and mixes people, whoever they might
> be, along with their cultures and ideas. History never
> behaves the way we might want it to.
>
> Best,
> Nirmal Dass
>
>
> --- mkelkar2003 <smykelkar@...> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.continuitas.com/intro.html
> >
> > "As is known, until recently the received doctrine
> > for the origins of
> > Indo-Europeans (IE) in Europe was centered upon the
> > idea - now called
> > the `myth' (Häusler 2003) - of an Indo-European
> > Invasion in the Copper
> > Age (IV millennium B.C.), by horse-riding warrior
> > pastoralists. The
> > last and most authoritative version of this theory
> > was the so called
> > kurgan theory, elaborated by Marija Gimbutas,
> > according to which the
> > Proto-IE were the warrior pastoralists who built
> > kurgan, i.e. burial
> > mounds, in the steppe area of Ukraine (e.g. Gimbutas
> > 1970, 1973, 1977,
> > 1980)."
> >
> > " Although most IE specialists are still reluctant
> > to admit it, this
> > chronology, as well as the scenario behind it, can
> > now be considered
> > as altogether obsolete. The evidence collected by
> > archaeology in the
> > last thirty years, in fact, overwhelmingly prove the
> > absence of any
> > large scale invasion in Europe, and the
> > uninterrupted continuity of
> > most Copper and Bronze Age cultures of Europe from
> > Neolithic, and of
> > most Neolithic cultures from Mesolithic and final
> > Paleolithic."
> >
> >
> > Hari Ohm Tat Sat.
> >
> > M. Kelkar


Mr. Dass:

There is no need to call me names. The article is about European pre
history; NOT Indian. You may want to check the credentials of these
authors before calling them "internet authors."


M. Kelkar

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