Re: Indo-European /a/

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "elmeras2000" <jer@...> wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "elmeras2000" <jer@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen"

<tgpedersen@...>

> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Kuhn points out that the latest-acquired domesticated plants
> and
> > > > animals seem to have root /a/. That would speak for all such
> > words
> > > > being loans.
> > >
> > > Could you give a little list - and a specific reference? That
> > could
> > be
> > > very helpful. Any possible connection with Schrijver's

language

> of
> > > bird names?
> > >
>
> > *bhars-/*bharis (lat. far "Spelz", germ.
> > *bariz "Gerste", gk phe:ron "Nahrung" < *bharsom),
>
> Impressive with its stable /a/.
>

Has Semitic connections.

> > gr. ákhne: germ.
> > *ah(a)no:/*ag(a)no: "Spreu" lat. agna "Ähre", lat. acus "Spreu",
> > germ.*ahs-/**ahis- "Ähre",
>
> This looks indigenous IE: *H2ek^- 'prick, be sharp', *H2(e)k^-ro-
> 'sharp'. s-stem normal in IE adjectival nouns, *H2ák^-os/es-

would

> be 'sharpness'.

Might also be part of loan complex with Lat. co:s "whetstone",
cudo "strike", which looks like a language-of-bird-names type
alternation.

> Ufer looks old, Gmc. *o:fera-, Gk. é:peiros pointing to *á:per-o-

/*-

> yo-. Derived from *ap- 'water' or from *apo 'off'? Or are both
> related?

On that subject, Hittite eku-/aku- "drink" and appa "away" vs. h_ap-
"water" is a problem with respect to the initial laryngeal. But
then, the words might have been borrowed and reborrowed with and
without the laryngeal.


Torsten