From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 36724
Date: 2005-03-13
>--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:From *-ukó- by Nieminen's law.
>
>> I don't think there any reason to doubt that "apple" was
>> mobile in PBS. It's a consonant stem, originally
>> proterodynamic (*h2ábo:l, *h2ábolm., oblique *h2(a)bélos ~
>> *h2(a)búlos), but reshaped in Balto-Slavic to the
>> generalized mobile type *h2abó:l, *h2ábolim etc.
>> It was thematized in Latvian and Lithuanian, remaining
>> mobile. In Slavic, the suffix *-ko can either be dominant or
>> recessive. If it was recessive, the word should have
>> remained mobile, which isn't the case. If the suffix was
>> dominant (like the cognate -IcI/-Ice, -ikU, -akU,
>> -UkU/-Uko), the word should have become immobile (which it
>> is) and stress should have been fixed on the thematic vowel.
>> The latter is not the case, which means that the stress was
>> retracted to the acute root syllable. This cannot be due to
>> Hirt's law, because the acute is not of laryngeal origin,
>> and because the retraction skips a syllable.
>
>But is there retraction? The suffix -uka- forms class-2 derivatives
>in Lithuanian, pointing to *-úko-.
>Would that not give *a:blúka >No. Stang?
>*abl'Uko, whence with Stang *j'ablUko?
>> >> >If Winter + d + t can trigger the same retraction asOK, I forgot. The point is that it doesn't work. There can
>> >> >clusters
>> >>
>> >> d+t *is* a cluster. What do you mean? Which retraction by
>> >> clusters?
>> >
>> >We were told many messages ago that the Slavic type Russ. tonú,
>> >tónes^' (with omega) from *tópn-e- (via Dybo + Stang) had been
>> >brought about by a general accent retraction caused by consonant
>> >clusters of some types. Thomas Olander presented it as Slaaby-
>> >Larsen's analysis, not dissimilar to a theory put forward by van
>> >Wijk.
>>
>> If I rememeber correctly, Slaaby-Larsen's law was about
>> *non*-retraction in the presence of clusters (però <
>> *p(t)etróm).
>
>Thomas Olander reported on this list, Dec. 9, 2004:
>
>"> A tentative and, to some extent, theory-neutral formulation of
>the law is:
>>
>> In Pre-Slavic, words with mobile accentuation containing a medial
>cluster C1C2 (where C1
>> = obstruent, C2 = any consonant, probably except j and w) get
>fixed root-stress (yielding
>> CS a.p. a or - via Dybo's law - a.p. b)." [End of quote]