Re: [tied] Stative Verbs, or Perfect Tense

Vixerunt (Cicero's famous one-word speech) = They are dead.
Fuit Ilium = Troy is no more.

>I would therefore not count the examples you give as examples of verbs in
>the perfect >having present meaning, rather I would call them examples of
>verbs which indicate a >former state, a past state, that is no more.

Your point is well made: Latin stresses the completion - the action is over
and finished - that is where the strength of the verb, and its present
meaning, comes from. There is a difference between these Latin forms and
the counterpart in Greek, where the action can continue into the present.

Peter