From: Mate Kapovic
Message: 36294
Date: 2005-02-14
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From: "willemvermeer" <wrvermeer@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 7:34 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Various loose thoughts
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 19:36:58 +0000, willemvermeer
> <wrvermeer@...> wrote:
>
> The Old Russian D. pl. ending has the valency (-) in the
> o-stems as well (Zaliznjak p. 141) [the L.pl. has (-Re), but
> that comes to the same thing in a.p. c words], and we have
> the accentuation zúbomU, pó gradomU (enclinomenic) in a
> large part of the East Slavic dialectal area (Zaliznjak
> 3.45, 3.46).
>
> It seems, then, that this has nothing to do with yers.
>I suspect Kortlandt (at least the 1975 Kortlandt) would not like this
>for a number of reasons, e.g. because it separates Baltic and Slavic
>and because bisyllabic endings are always plus so you expect the Dpl
>to be plus too. Kortlandt's mechanism explains how stem-stressed Dpl
>forms arose in Slavic in i-stems and u-stems. It goes without saying
>that speakers immediately reinterpreted these forms as enclinomenic
>because *all* stem-stressed form of mobile paradigms were
>enclinomenic, so the stem-stressed Dpl was spectacularly anomalous.
>Indeed, they could hardly have done otherwise.
Are the forms like gen. pl. gorU with the retracted accent also considered
as enclinomena?
Mate