Re: [tied] vulpes and lupus (was Evening/Night *wekwer-o-)

From: Joao
Message: 36148
Date: 2005-02-05

It seems to be roots *luk- wlkWo-, wlp-, l(o:)up-, with meanings "wolf", "jackal", "fox", "cat". The relationship between all is still enigmatic.
 
 

1) *wlp-    Lit. vilpis^is (wild cat) Lat vulpes(fox) PGer wulfaz(wolf)? Lit lapë (<vlap-<wlop-)

2) *(H)lo:up-/lu:p-/lo:p  Sansk lopas^ah (fox,jackal,<*loup-nk^-) Celtic louarno-(fox) Arm. lues  Grk. alo:pe:x Lat. lu:pus? Slavic lasi-(*las<lôp-si,weasel?)

3) *wlkwos {wolf}  Lit vilkas Sansk vrkas Avest. v&hrko Slavic vlIkU CGerm wulfaz Grk lykos Lat lu:pus Sabinian hirpus Albanian ulk

 
Joao SL
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Subject: [tied] vulpes and lupus (was Evening/Night *wekwer-o-)


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@......> wrote:
> Miguel Carrasquer wrote:
> > On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 23:22:58 +0100, alex
> > <alxmoeller@......> wrote:
> >
> >> There is actually the IE *lukos"
> >
> > Actually *wl.'kWos, in a number of languages simplified to
> > *lúkWos.
>
> true for IE. *lukWos paralel with *wl.kWos and from *wl.kWos
>
> >
> >> which could make a plural *luki
> >
> > *lúkWoi.
> >
> >
> > =======================
> > Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> > mcv@...
>
> true for IE, not true for some daugether languages. Are there some
> thoughts of you that the ancient "ki" versus "pi" from the example
given
> (Ulpiana/Ulciana) is absolutely independent and has nothing to do
with
> the alternance of "ki" with "pi" which is today stil alive? If
yes, I
> assume there are very strong reasons and the explanation will
follow.
>
> Alex

You've started discussion about wolves. Ok.

Could anybody explain lith. la~pe:, Latin vulpes and Lith. vilkas,
Lat. lupus...
It makes view that Latin counterchanged these twoo words...