Re: [tied] Romance Neuter Nouns (was: Lat. -idus)

From: petegray
Message: 35962
Date: 2005-01-16

> You [Miguel] are seriously mistaken. The o-stem neuter plural is
> *-eh2 (> -a:) and sometimes apparently *-&2 (> -a). The
> a:-stem fem.pl. is usually *-ah2-es > *-a~s, sometimes
> (well, in Latin and Greek, not Albanian I think, analogical
> after o-stem *-oy) *-ay. No -e, except that in (E.) Romance
> and Mod. Greek -ai > -e.

I see again why I seldom reply to Alex.
(a) Neuter plurals in Latin originally ended -a:
(b) This was shortened to -a.
(c) On some words, deictic particles (-i and -c) were added, so that the
neuter plural ended in -ai or -aic, which became ae or -aec. In the
Classical period this included neuter plural quae and haec.
(d) This was later extended to other determiners, including ille, new neuter
plural illae.
(e) A phonetic change takes place: -ae- > -e-.
(f) This gives you the final -e on neuter plurals that you are looking for.
So Miguel is not "seriously mistaken"

Peter