Re: Croatian dialectology (was: Latin ibex akin to Portuguese bezer

From: willemvermeer
Message: 35924
Date: 2005-01-15

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Mate Kapovic" <mkapovic@...> wrote:


> For Cakavian, there is a monograph by Milan Mogus "Cakavsko
> narjecje" (1977)but that's only phonology.


Mogus's book is only about *defining* what is C^akavian, which is an
uninteresting question to begin with on the well-known principle
that "what is" questions are unilluminating, and not made more
interesting by the way Mogus deals with it. (The book confuses the
issues and is totally unhistorical. It is a public disgrace and
should have been branded as such.)

The same holds for Mogus's "Fonoloski razvoj hrvatskog jezika"
(1971), which commits the mistake of taking seriously Zvonimir
Junkovic's theory of Slavic accentology, which I bet you guys are
unaware of.

I recall meeting a Croatian linguist telling me that "as a Croat" he
was ashamed that that was all they had to offer. (Of course he was
wrong: if you have the blazing light of Stjepan Ivsic, who not only
put all of us in his debt by describing the "Danasni Posavski govor",
but also happened to discover Stang's law more than half a century
before Stang, there is no need to be ashamed of anything and you're
absolved from collective guilt for all eternity, for God's sake.)

Sorry for that, but it came from the heart and I'll always be an
unequivocal Ivsic fan, even if he became a wee bit alcoholic in old
age and mislaid the manuscript of Marulic's translation of 'De
imitatione Christi". IT DOESN'T MATTER if you've written "Prilog za
slavensku akcentologiju.

(That's three beers for you.)

Willem










> Currently, another Croatian dialectologist (Josip
> Lisac) is writing a survey of Croatian dialectology - untill now,
only the
> first part, about Stokavski is published (Hrvatska dijalektologija
1, 2003).
>
> Mate