Re: [tied] Re: Latin ibex akin to Portuguese bezerro?

From: Mate Kapovic
Message: 35905
Date: 2005-01-15

Well, it is usually associated with Slavi *buka "noise", *bučati "to make noise, to roar" which is ultimately an onomatopoeic word.
 
Mate
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From: Joao
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Latin ibex akin to Portuguese bezerro?

Adn what's the origin of Slavic byk ?
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From: g
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 9:11 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Latin ibex akin to Portuguese bezerro?

> Skok actually adduces "bic" as a Rom. loanword from Slavic *byk7. The
> word is also loaned into Hungarian (bika).
>
> Mate

<bic> and (more frequently used form) <bicã> ['bik&] are spread in
rather small areas of the Transylvanian subdialects (esp. those
neighboring Hungary). As a synonym of <taur> ['ta-ur] "bull" and
<junc(an)> "young bull (or ox)". The word is so insignifiant for the
rest of the native-speakers, that usual Romanian dictionaries don't
mention it. (And always with [i], never with [I].)

I'd rather expect this word to have been borrowed via Hungarian, ie,
not directly. (Hung <bika> ['bikO] "bull".)

g