Re: [tied] Re: Latin ibex akin to Portuguese bezerro?

From: alex
Message: 35902
Date: 2005-01-15

Mate Kapovic wrote:
>> I said just there is the word "b�c" without pointing to its
>> etymology. Since you say so sure on you "loan from Slavic", what
>> makes this word so Slavic? Its presence in South Slavic or is there
>> anything special for classifying this word as "slavic" ?
>
> Slavic *byk7 or *b7k7 is actually a pan-Slavic word. Since Romanian
> has loads of Slavic words and since the Romanian word fits in here
> both semantically and phonetically, I see no problem in it being a
> Slavic loanword into Romanian.
> Skok actually adduces "bic" as a Rom. loanword from Slavic *byk7. The
> word is also loaned into Hungarian (bika).
>
> Mate

just fine. Then you will be able to explain then the change of "i" to
"�" in this case. I am not aware of any Slavic "y" becoming "�" in Rom.
Since phoneticaly there it cannot be explained via Slavic "y" or "i",
then the statements as "is a panslavic one", "has loans from Slavic"
have no value.
My assumption the word is not of Slavic origin is founded on the
regionalism "bic" which means "ox" and _it is_ the Slavic "bik". So,
once we have "bic" and once we have "b�c", both means "ox". The word
with "�" speaks for an older word, the form with "i" appears to be a
recently one.


Alex




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