Re: *ratja, rotja; ratza (Re: Plural of 'vatra')

From: g
Message: 35551
Date: 2004-12-22

>>> *ra:tja: > *rO:tja --> rat,ã etc.
>>
>> the Hungarian reflex of it has an [u]: ruca ['rutzO].
>
> We have PFU *palwa > Hu. falu, so /u/ may be the regular
> reflex of */wa/ in Hungarian.

Falva ['fOlvO], plur. falvák ['fOlva:k] (which is the standard language
synonym for falú, as well as an usual name place component similar to
-dorf constructions in German, e.g. Düsseldorf) is still there, as the
full
reflex of the PFU *palwa. (BTW, Hung. fal [fOl] "wall"; "Wand & Mauer")

So, I don't know whether the ending -u is a direct reflex of the PFU
-wa, or a late suffix change (diminutival? dialectal? whatever), a
replacement of -va with -u.

> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...

George