--- alexandru_mg3 <
alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
>
> GK: What is "Pre-Romanian" in your view? A
> language that existed prior to the Latin
> arrival/implantation in the Balkans, i.e. prior to
> 165
> BC? It's ridiculous to speak of this as
> "pre-Romanian". Totally anachronistic. There was no
> "pre-Romanian" before the Latins came. Romanian is
> an
> eastern Romance language. Elementary.
>
> No ridiculous is the fact that you skip wittingly
> the argument
> that I show you:
> Romanian ratsa and mazare (OLDER ra:tsja and
> ma:dzula) shows in
> Romanian (in Relation with PALb a:>o transformation)
> an OLDER
> Phonetic treatement that ALL the Latin words in
> Romanian and
> Albanian....This is a FACT. So please take it as a
> fact.
> Based on this belong to an elementary logic that
> The Pre-Romanian
> Substratum existed BEFORE the latin layer....So
> Pre-Romanians are the
> people that were fully Romanized and became
> Romanians.
> Why is hard to understand this?
*****GK: What's "hard to understand" is NOT that some
"local" linguistic elements, going back to linguistic
patterns which existed in the Balkans prior to the
arrival of Latin, eventually entered the Romanian
language. If you are willing to admit that the
language of Rome is much more significantly
"Pre-Romanian" than the "local" languages (and there
were many) traces of which may be discovered in
Romanian through analysis, then we have no problem.
Nor am I convinced that the ancestors of contemporary
Romanians are primarily the carriers of the various
pre-Latin languages of the Balkans. There is no easy
way to determine this. I would argue that the best
case (prior to convincing DNA testings)is the obvious
one: that Romanians are descended just as much if not
more from Roman colonists drawn from the length and
breadth of the Empire as they are from "local"
elements (not to mention later influxes from various
quarters). To focus inordinate attention on the
contribution of pre-Latin Balkan peoples and languages
distorts the overall picture IMHO.*****
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