Re: Albanian origins and much more

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 35488
Date: 2004-12-19

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
> I found an interesting (if somewhat awkwardly
> translated) interview with the Albanian scholar K.
> Resuli-Burovich. Cf.
> http://www.alb-net.com/pipermail/art-cafe/Week-of-Mon-
20030324/001530.html
>
> Any comments from our Albanologists?

"
>Dr. Kaplan Resuli-Burovich: - On the territory of today¹s Albania, as
> has already been confirmed by the most distinguished world scholars,
> from whom I have already mentioned some, first settled the Slavs.
In 548
> A.D., they enter also in Durrachium (Drach, Durr?s). The Albanians
> come via Transylvania (Romania) and Bulgaria much later, IX-X
century."


What I found strange is that somebody arrives in an interview and
make some assertions without any argument...

On the other side we have some clear linguistic facts:

1. Older Greeks Loans in Albanian (Like: Doric Greek a: > Alb o
similar with PAlb a: > Rom. a <-> Alb o) shows an Older treatement
than the Albanian treatement of the Latin Loans (Lat. a: > Alb a).
This is a fact: so is above all doubts. Based on it we can easy
assert that (sorry that I repeat this but reading such assertions as
above is better to repeat it 100 times if needed):
Albanians was in contact with Greeks before Latin Arrival in
Balkan. Where this contact with Greeks before 'Roman arrival in
Balkans' could take place? In Transylvania? Of course, not.
This clear shows us that Albanians ancestors were nearby Greek's
borders in sec. III BC (because in 165 BC the Romans already occupied
Skodra).

2. Dacian - Albanian similarities are more than simple
coincidences:

a. Alb. karpë 'rock' > PAlb. *karpa <-> Dacian Karpates (mountains),
Karps(Dacian Tribe) (attested)

b. Alb. zjarm 'fire' > PAlb. *g^erma <-> Dacian Germi-sara 'hot
springs'(attested in Transylvania)

c. Alb. man 'mulberry' < PAlb. *manta <-> Dacian 'manteia' (attested
at Dioscorides 4.37 'blackberry)

d. Alb. edh, dhi 'he/she-goat' > PAlb. *aidza/*aidzija <-> Dacian
Aizizis (attested in Banat) and Adzizio (attested in today Albania in
Tabula Peutingeriana)

Note: We have a 'Thermidava' attested by Ptolemeu at 10 km nearby
Skodra.

Also I couldn't find until now in Dacian' Toponimy Phonetic Rules
to show the smallest difference (by comparing with PAlb rules):

Examples of Dacian Rules:
-------------------------
Dac.(PAlb) a: < PIE *e: (Dacian *dawa 'fortress,city' < *de:wa)

Dac.(PAlb) je < PIE *e (Dacian Diegis (Decebal's general) see Alb.
djeg 'to burn' < PIE *dhegwh 'id.')

Dac.(PAlb) dz < PIE *g' (Dacian *Aidzitsja (attested > Aizizis
(Banat) and Adzizio (Albania) (PIE *aig' 'goat').

Dac.(PAlb) g^ < PIE *gw/*g'w (Dacian Germisara (in Transylvania))
< PIE *gwhermo- 'hot,warm')

Dac.(PAlb) ri < PIE *r. (Dacian Krisia (river in Transylvania) <
PIE *kr.s.n.- 'black')


3. To this we can add Romanian-Albanian 'common words' (98 at
Rosetti, in total about 300 common words).

see at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/balkanika/files/Rosetti/


In conclusion: is very probable that Albanian represents a Dacian
Dialect (with an Illyrian Substratum) and also is almost sure that
Albanians arrives nearby Greek' borders at least in sec. III B.C.

Only the Best,
Marius