From: Petusek
Message: 35357
Date: 2004-12-07
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From: "g" <st-george@...>
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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 5:54 PM
Subject: [tied] Re: Hung. var-oS [Re: tsarca--s^árka]
>>> And also in "Karlovy Vary". :-)
> >>
>>> P.A.
>>
>> "vary", in my opinion, must be of the same origin as "var^it",
>> "vr^i't" (to
>> boil) < IE *wer- "to burn, to be hot" etc., since this place is a
>> famous
>> (geothermal) spa, moreover, its German form is Carlsbad from which it
>> must
>> be clear what the second word means. Only that you claimed there was a
>> semantic link between "burn, be hot" (boil) on the one side, and what
>> you
>> think Hung. "var" denotes, and gave me some supporting arguments,
>> would I
>> agree and accept your thought.
>
>"hot, fervent, fervid, boiling, scalding, burning, sweltering" & al.
>are covered in Hung. by the verb <forr> [for] and its reflexes, esp.
><forró> ['foro:], e.g. <forró víz> ['foro: vi:z] "hot water". "Bath;
>spa": <fürdõ> or <füred> e.g. Balatonfüred. [So, a curious coincidence:
>vVr- vs. fVr-. But I've got no idea whether this is or isn't relevant
>at all.]
>
>> As for Hostivar^,
>
>How about Budvar? (In Ceske Budejovice.) (There are some var-containing
>toponyms in former Yugoslavia as well, but none occurs to my mind.)
>
>> Petusek
>
>George
George, a great example, Budvar is an acronym of "Bude^jovicky' pivovar",
i.e. "The Bude^jovice Brewery", where "pivo-" means "beer" and "var" means
"to boil" (< IE *wer- , as I've metioned), i.e. also "to brew".