From: Miguel Carrasquer
Message: 35213
Date: 2004-11-27
>> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 03:56:55 +0100, Miguel CarrasquerMy point was that before Dybo's law *dváram was just another
>> <mcv@...> wrote:
>>
>> I've just read Kortlandt's explanation for dvorU in "Slavic
>> Accentuation". When the acc.sg. of o-stems became barytone
>> ("barytonesis"), the acc.sg. ending became markedly
>> unstressed, which clashed with the existence of oxytone
>> neuters with the same ending (e.g. *p(t)erám). These
>> therefore adopted the pronominal ending *-á (< *-od). The
>> barytonic neuters merged with the masculines.
>>
>> It would be a nice explanation, were it not for the fact
>> that not _all_ barytonic neuters become masculines. The
>> AP(a) ones, such as krêslo, síto, ordlo, lêto etc. remain
>> barytonic and neuter. And not all of those can be explained
>> as old oxytones affected by Hirt's law.
>>
>> This also shows that whatever happened to make dvorU etc.
>> masculine cannot have happened earlier than Dybo's law,
>> because before that there was no AP(a) vs. AP(b).
>>
>> That Dybo's law could affect the NA *dváram > *dvarám also
>> shows that at the time, the form was still a neuter. Else
>> the advancement of the stress would have been blocked as it
>> was in the AP(b) masculines (e.g. Acc.sg. *zam~bas does not
>> become *zambám, because of the pressure from AP(c) [and (a)]
>> to the efefct that the acc.sg.masc. is supposed to be
>> unstressed).
>>
>> What remains incomprehensible to me is why a paradigm like
>> that of post-Dybo *dvarám didn't merge with the oxytone
>> neuters such as *perá(m) > peró.
>
>Well, I don't see why would you have to assume that *dvor7 had to still be
>neuter by the time of Dybo's law? *dv'or7 > *dvor'7 by Dybo's law would
>work just fine and *zoNb7 was probably already a. p. c at that time
>because of the tendency of o-stems shifting from a. p. b to a. p. c like
>with Lith. a. p. 2 > 4, and 1 > 3, spreading mobility. The process was
>probably analogical. So at the time of Dybo's law, *dv'or7 and *'zoNb7
>were probably already different - the first one was barytone and thus was
>included in Dybo's law and the other one was already enclinomen (not
>accented) and thus could not paricipate in Dybo's law.
>We seem to have a push or pull chain involving the followingPIE oxytone neuters, such as *pteróm, always remained
>categories:
>
>1) expected AP(b) masculines => AP(c) [AP(d)] masculines
>(e.g. zôNbU)
>
>The empty slot is filled by:
>2) expected AP(b) neuters => AP(b) masculines;
>(e.g. dvorÚ > dvòrU)
>
>The empty slot is filled by:
>3) (some) expected AP(c) neuters => AP(b) neuters;
>(e.g. peró)
>
>The AP(c) neuters class does not empty, because the
>circumflex o-stem neuters remain (e.g. mêNso).