Alb. "vatër" ( it was (Re: [tied] Re: Albanian valle )

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Cf. Jysk 'Wolle' < Danish 'Ole', presumably o: > úo > uó > wo . I
think it's likely the 'prothetic' v- of eg. Russian vosem' "eight"
developed the same way: o > uó > wo > vo .
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o > uó > wo > vo seems logical.

But the issue in Albanian is that we have also dialectal 'va'
see 'vatër'. (there is a:>o in Albanian but this transformation is
available everywhere in Albanian so is a global rule and not a
dialectal rule)

The issue here is not only 'vo' to be explained but the following
fact:

Why we have the variance 'va'~vo' in Albanian Dialects?

If somebody tell me that this variance could arrive from a single
common *a: > *o > vo~va , I think that everybody could still have
doubts regarding this equation because there is no explanation
regarding 'va'.

Only the Bests,
marius

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alex" <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
> > Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
> >
> > > The output of *h2ah1- (+ consonant) in pre-Alb. is of course *a:
> > > (after the loss of the laryngeals), which is regularly rounded
to
> *o
> > > > Common Albanian *wo, with a prothetic *w also found in loans
> from
> > > Latin, and with the regular unrounding of the vowel in some
> dialects.
> > > There's no "vae~voe" anywhere in this derivation.
> > >
> > > Piotr
> >
> > I am not so sure we have to deal with a prothetic "w" here. There
> are
> > several facts which will speak for a diphtongation of "o"
> to "oa"(wa) and
> > from that point the consonification of "w" at the begin of the
> word.
>
> Cf. Jysk 'Wolle' < Danish 'Ole', presumably o: > úo > uó > wo . I
> think it's likely the 'prothetic' v- of eg. Russian vosem' "eight"
> developed the same way: o > uó > wo > vo .
>
> Torsten