[tied] Re: Albanian valle 'circular dance'

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"<lat. corvus" - NODEX.
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NODEX is an electronic version of an unrated dictionary...Nothing
to do with DEX. Please talk only about DEX here.

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It doesn't. There is no such convention.
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Yes, it is. I can tell you because I took each Latin word from DEX
one by one. Where DEX write 'din Lat.' DEX opinion is clear 'later
loan from Latin or from Latin via another language').

Of course is the DEX opinion regarding all these considerations.
(see DEX Rom. 'abstract' 'din Lat. abstractus' etc...)

Is not an error or a variant this 'din Lat.' in DEX.

Now I cannot count if there are errors or not regarding this
convention or if is DEX opinion, but I can tell you that for more
than 95% Latin words this convention exists in DEX. Please check
yourself it.

Best Regards,
marius

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "m_iacomi" <m_iacomi@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski wrote:
>
> >> Whose "reconstruction" is this? *-rw- would have given Romanian
> >> <-rb-, as in corb < corvu- /korwu-/. Please stop multiplying
> >> absurdities.
>
> Of course, in CL voicing. Afterwards, /w/ shifts either to /v/
> (most cases) or to /b/.
>
> > Ockham's Razor applies here.
>
> By far.
>
> >> b) Secondly 'corb' is not considered by some linguists (like
> >> Academia Romana) as an inherited Latin word in Romanian.
> >> See DEX (http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=corb&source=)
> >
> > You do well to respect DEX;
>
> Actually he doesn't even respect DEX: the only two entries having
> some reference to the etyma read:
> "Din lat. corvus." (`from Latin corvus`) - DEX '98 and
> "<lat. corvus" - NODEX.
>
> > it's a pity you don't accept the etymology of <horã> given there.
>
> BTW, the ritual circular dance is present as well in Catalonia,
> it's called "sardana", I wonder why Miguel didn't mention it. :-)
>
> >> made by Academia Romana that clearly indicates:
> >>
> >> "din Lat. corvus" and not "Lat. corvus"
> >>
> >> This 'din Lat.' is the DEX indication that is not a Latin
> >> inherited word BUT was loaned via other sources or is a later
> >> Latin loan [...]
> >
> > This is getting ridiculous. Since when does "from Latin"
> > (<din Lat.>) means that the word cannot be in from Latin
> > (whether borrowed or inherited, as in this case)? Where does
> > the dictionary mention such a convention?
>
> It doesn't. There is no such convention. The same applies for
> example for "preot" (Din lat. presbiterum), "munte" (Din lat.
> mons, -tem) or "coase" (Din lat. pop. cosere (= consuere).),
> all of them inherited. There are in DEX '98 some words for which
> one writes that `from` in all letters even if those words are
> undoubtedly inherited.
> Of course, "corb" _is_ inherited (most late Latin loans in
> Romanian -- which are actually very rare -- are connected
> rather with some technical or abstract notions; the name is
> well attested even prior to first preserved Romanian texts).
> I would be _very_ surprised to find a Romanian linguist who
> is really considering "corb" as late Latin loan (to put it in
> a mild tone).
>
> Regards,
> Marius iacomi

[tied] Re: Albanian valle 'circular dance' - Proto-Albanian form?