Hello Abdullah,
I think that Alb. <valle> 'circular dance' and Romanian
<hora> 'id.' is one and the same word having a Proto Albanian
(Dacian?) form a PAlb. *walwo:-/*walo:- (I'm not sure of it, from
here my question on Cybalist) from Pokorny root PIE *uel-7 'to round'.
Bulgarian 'horo' cannot be considered as source of Romanian 'hora',
because the root 'uel-7' is obvious for Rom. 'hora' either 'circular
dance' (see at
http://dexonline.ro/search.php?cuv=hora&source=), and
Albanian form is also compatible (in fact is exactly the same related
to its meaning with the Romanian one).
Also as I know their is no Rothacism in Bulgarian as it is in
Romanian.
So the correct relation is that the Bulgarian 'horo' is a loan
from Romanian and not invers (as it is considered today by DEX).
Viewing the rothacism present in Rom. 'hora' the original 'l'
should be an intervocalic one and not from a consonatic cluster 'lC'
as you proposed in PIE *wol-na:
Of course you can think also that Rom. 'hora' has nothing to do
with Alb. 'valle' but in this case from where comes Bulgarian 'horo'
(if not from PIE uel-7?) and to ignore the Romanian link with
Albanian 'valle' (in fact the same dance) together with other similar
Albanian - Romanian pairs like:
Rom. 'oare' 'interg. perhaps?' - Alb. vallë 'id.' (I doubts
that we have a Lat. volet here as DEX proposed)
Rom. 'orb' 'blind' (reg.'uãrb') - Alb. vërbër (Lat. orbus) )
and the 2 pairs above are not the only ones.
So we should have in this case at least an intervocalic -l- for the
PAlb form: *wVlV- and not a consonantic cluster ( 'ln')
Something like PAlb. *walo:-/*walwo:- (I don't know with what
ending or if is exactly this form) that could explains also the 'e'
of Alb. valle ( o: > e ; lw >ll )
Any help in this direction?
Only the Best,
marius
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cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Abdullah Konushevci"
<a_konushevci@...> wrote:
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3"
> <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello All,
> > We are discussing about Albanian word valle 'kind of
circular
> > dance' on Balkanika.
> > Any help related to a Proto-Albanian form of this word
and/or
> > its PIE will be welcome.
> >
> > Thanks and Best Regards,
> > marius
> ************
> I guess that PIE root of Alb. <valle> 'dance' is verb root *wel-
'to
> turn; roll'. If we agree that Alb. verb <vjell> 'to vomit, turn' is
> derived from *wel-no > vjell (*e > ie > je and /ln/ > /ll/), we may
> assume that <valle> is derived from an o-grade form *wol-na: >
vallë
> and <valle> to be treated as singularized plural in plural ending -
> e, to avoid homonymy with Alb. particle <vallë?>.
> Very interesting is the compound <shtojzovallet> 'nix, sylph' <
> shtoj 'to multiply, increase' + zo(t) 'god' + valle 'dance',
> literaly 'multiply, God, the dances'.
>
> Konushevci