a_konushevci@ wrote:
>[AK]
>Alb. <tinar> is a derivative of Alb. <tpini> `havy stick used to
>make milk products, like yoghurt, cheese, mixing the milk in round
>wooden vessel, known as <buçka>'. I believe that <tpini> is a
>prefixed form (cf. Latin <filum> and Alb. <tfilloj> `to develop, to
>instruct') of suffixed zero-grade form *pi-nu (cf. Latin
><pinus> `pine tree'). So, <tinar> is just e derivative of <tpin + -
>ar>, loosing /p/ due to further suffixation.
The word for this kind of wooden vessel (cask?) is almost the same
in various European languages and must be seen in a group
together with such words as Greek pytine, Lat. butina, Old
High German butin (or butina), Engl. butt & bottle, German
Bütte (+ Büttner > Romanian butnar) and Buddel ("bottle" &
"flask"), akin to French bouteille [bu'tæi], Hungarian puttony
(note: puttonyos -> degree of how exquisite a Tokaji wine
stems from a kind of such wooden vessel. Puttony might be a
Romanian loanie < putinã, I don't know.)
Hence, Romanian putinã ['putin&] (with the variant putinei
[pu-ti'nej], which is a longer, thinner putina) is akin to
bute ['bu-te] (variant: butie) ['bu-ti-e]) and butoi [bu-'toj].
Both these mean "barrel" (the former general or smaller,
the latter large) < Lat. buttis (> butticula > bottle &
bouteille).
Hence, putina *might* also be related to butuc, butur(ã),
buturã, buturugã, since in Romanian bute also means stem
of a tree as well as axle (pin, shaft, spindle -> butuc,
in certain techn. cases being interchangeable with...
arbore, which in non-tech speech is the chief and mere
Romanian synonym for copac & pom "tree").
Noteworthy: linguists haven't made up their minds on the
etymology of Romanian butuc. (It could OTOH be that bute and
butuc is only a supraposition of two different lexems; but
they share some of the definitions. But anyway, someone who
is butucanos mostly is a thick-bodied, massive and/or even
obese person (incl. a (beer-)barrel-bellied one).
George