Re: [tied] Re: aldric, luis, aldrin = etymology?

At 3:33:06 AM on Tuesday, October 26, 2004,
he_who_must_not_be_named wrote:

>>French also shows the same contrast between vulgar forms
>>-ry and erudite forms -ric (cf. Frery and Frederic.
>>Romance languages developped femine forms adding -a, -etta
>>or -ina.

> so *aldarikas in french would be: [aldry]?

<Audry> is the most common French reflex; <Autry> also
occurs, and in the South <Aldric>, <Audric>, and <Autric>.

> what would the frankish be?--->>[aldrech]?

Probably West Frankish <Aldrich>.

> i was also wondering about the high german one... would it
> be plain [aldric]?

Old High German <Altrih>, <Altrich>.

> and the west saxon equivalent would be [ealdric]?

Yes, though so far as I can tell it isn't attested.

> oh...regarding [aldrick] and [aldridge] being derived from
> [aelfric] or [athelric], does this mean that english names
> like aldrick, aldrich, and aldridge are not connected
> whatsoever to the continental germanic [aldric] meaning
> 'old-king'?

That appears to be the case, apart from the fact that the
second elements of OE <Ælfric> and <Æðelric> are cognate
with the second element of the CG name.

Brian