Re: [tied] Re: Derivations 15 sun

From: Sean Whalen
Message: 34712
Date: 2004-10-17

--- Richard Wordingham
<richard.wordingham@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Sean Whalen
> <stlatos@...> wrote:
> >
> > Sun, n.: nom/acc and gen
> >
> > As I've said, VZZV syllabification seems to be
> > optional , so: V-xyV or Vx-yV and V-nwV or Vn-wV,
> etc.

> >
> > These forms account for:
> > Goth. sauil, Lat. sol
> > Sanskrit suar
> > Greek he':lios/ha:we'lios
> > San. su:ryas
>
> But don't account for the -n- forms discussed in
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/16501
> and
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/16881
> et seq. I must
> confess I still don't know what the declension is in
> Gothic, but the
> heteroclitic forms in Avestan and Gothic should be
> addressed. It
> would also be nice to address the OCS slUnIce.

Do you mean I should be able to account for all
forms as resulting from one original undergoing
optional or dialectical changes? I don't think I
could do this. Forms with -n- might just be forms
created after break-up by adding -nos to form a word
easier to decline (along with "star" or analogy with
"moon"?). I don't know much about these forms, so as
long as they happen after the PIE time, they shouldn't
matter to my reconstruction.

Gothic has both sauil (<so:wil regularly) and
sunno:

Avestan hvar@ (<suxar after loss of x and u>w); I
don't know enough about Avestan phonology to say if
the schwa would be standard here (perhaps from -i to
regularize nom.?). Also, gen. hu:ro: (<suxryas). I
don't know how to get [xv]e:ng; there's only one note
on it in my books.


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