Re: [tied] PIE *akWa: 'water' (was: The role of analogy, alliterati

Richard Wordingham wrote:

> 1) Alex suggested that it did not meet the CVC root pattern, so I
> supplied the initial laryngeal to make the point that it is not
> inconsistent with the pattern.

OK I understand the teoretic way but the "h2" cannot be seen as consonatic
or can it?

>
> 2) kW as opposed to k^w is supported by three facts:

Can one agree the PIE *kW was as actually italian "qu" in "aqua"? Can
one agree the PIE k^w was as in english "chew" ?

> a) kW is commoner than k^w
> b) Sanskrit _ka:m_ 'water' may be connected

Walde Hoffman doesn't like to connect the sanskrit word here, but the
Letonian "aka"

> c) I think the root is cognate with *h2ap 'water'.

That would mean that kW >p at a pre Ie stage?

>
> For 2(c) we might be seeing sporadic **pW > p outside Germanic while
> Germanic would have **pW > *kW; alternatively, *h2ap reflects
> sporadic *kW > *p.

Germanic "-apa" is to see under Latin amnis from *ap-nis and Germanic
"affa".
So the example given by Brtian appear to be correct.