Richard Wordingham wrote:
>
> A problem with kW > W > p, assuming you meant the voiceless labio-
> velar approximant, is that the only relevant developments from it I
> can think of are [W] > [w], [W] > [f] and [W] > [p\] (bilabial
> fricative). If you mean kW > w > p, well, w > p in one step is
> unusual, and would be inconsistent with gW > w > b !
>
> Richard.
yeab. but b and b are alophones arent they? any maybe they are to explain
other way. That question of you remember me of something because that is a
pertinent observation where in fact the labiovelars are considered as
questionable at all !!
Let us take an example:
gWo:us > Indic: gauh
> Germ : kuh
> Latin: bos
> Greek: bous
> Rom. : bou, bour
My dictionary says there is no idea about what is there as basis for the
root, maybe the onomatopea made by the animal. If that is true, then the
onomatopea is begining with a labial (m/b) and it has perceped as
"b/muuuuuhhhhhhh". That is how the cow does.Then how is to explain the "g"
in Indic and Germanic? One see they are bounded together in this case a
centum language (germanic) and a satem one(indic) and one has no idea how to
explain the velar "g"
On another hand the *akWa is presented in Germanic space as "afa" so, if one
keep together on the timelione the change of "kW" and "gW" one has this
question: why gW > g > k in Germanic and why kW > p > f ? In this case one
is best adviced to consider the Germanic "afa" has nothing to do with
questionable root *akWa. I assume Glen will say anyhow *akWa cannot be a IE
root due missing CVC form:-) If one is in such trouble then one should
consider the labile denomination "sprachgefeuhl" as a besser way to explain
it? Or does one have to consider an potential palatal "n" which has a
nasalo-velar value in that onomatopea (*n~uuuuuh)which developed in a group
in velar and in another group to an labial. A such hypothesis won't be able
alone to expalin again the diference betwen "b" and "p". Too funny the
things here, but I will be just ears to hear some other opinions here.
Alex