Arba, Arab, Four (Re: Etruscan numerals)

From: loreto bagio
Message: 34418
Date: 2004-10-03

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "etherman23" <etherman23@...>
wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "thrsnmrtn" <thrsnmrtn@...>
wrote:
> > Is there any possibility that quattro and ša are related?
>
> Not in any obvious way.

I've been talking to several Arabs and some of the answers (folk
etymology) they give to their ethnonym is the number four
(i.e. 'arba').

Seems it (four) is also sacred to them (in contrast) as they relate
it also to a holy mount called Arafa (in Mecca). And then 'arafa'
to 'arif' "learneth/ to know".

I was thinking if mountain and four then perhaps the -tor in *kWet-
wor>>quatro? But more probably Arafa is related to Horeb, the other
name of Mt. Sinai (also known in Arabic as At-tur). And if a
mountain then a pillar.
And if a pillar then the forefinger which is finger # four that we
often use in gestures in making a point as well as pointing per se?
Perhaps the flow could be the reverse (i.e from finger#four to
pillar).

We do know that Arabic has 'rabb' for "Lord". Hebrew has 'rabbi'
for "teacher". Also related perhaps to angel Raphael who is
sometimes depicted as a huge mountain together with the other three
most trusted angels of God (Michael, Gabriel, Penuel).

And perhaps (Horeb and Arafa) are further connected to Gk Erebos
with a downturn meaning (i.e. underworld or one of the layers of
underworld). The meaning probably due to a prehistoric
propagandizing against the Middle Easterns in Greece? Or something
else.

We see the same thing with "Tartaros", said to be a deeper
underworld than Erebos where the Titans where imprisoned after they
lost the battle against Zeus and his sibling-gods. Some say tar-
there is related to the Sanskrit -tala. Incidentally so many Indic
names with the suffix -tala are depicted as anyone of the layers of
heaven or of the underworld.
Examples are Atala, Patala, Mahatala etc.

Loreto