Re: [tied] Llyr/Ler - Celtic Etymology

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From: CG

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Subject: Re: [tied] Llyr/Ler - Celtic Etymology

> What should the Ler/Llyr mean? Is this a name?

Old Irish Ler and Welsh Llyr mean "Sea" (Piotr has provided the
etymology elsewhere) - Ler and Llyr were both likely Insular Celtic
sea gods in origin, but scant traces of any myths surrounding them
have survived - they have become nothing more than shadowy ancestor
figures in the extant literature.


> I ask because Rom. "Ler" is
> usually seen as a short form of the Galerius since its name appears
in the
> stories as "King Ler" (Ler Împãrat)

I can't imagine there is any connection. As a side note, many assume
that King Lear of Shakespeare fame is derived from Welsh Llyr, but in
fact the two names are etymologically unrelated.

- Chris Gwinn