From: tgpedersen
Message: 33528
Date: 2004-07-15
> At 6:45:53 AM on Thursday, July 15, 2004, tgpedersen wrote:Oxford Dictionary of English, sec. edition
>
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott"
> > <BMScott@...> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >> That's not quite the original sense, however. The American
> >> word earlier had only the sense 'drunk, tipsy'. Moreover,
> >> it is first noted only in 1897 (OED), though Mencken thought
> >> that it was one of a group of synonymous slang terms dating
> >> to the decades preceding the U.S. Civil War.
>
> > 'befuddled, intoxicated' is what I find, so 'drunk' is not
> > the primary sense, and I don't find that as primary in the
> > examples either.
>
> I have no idea where you're looking. 'Drunk, tipsy with
> drink' is the oldest attested sense of the U.S. word.