Re[2]: [tied] Wuz

From: Brian M. Scott
Message: 33512
Date: 2004-07-13

At 7:41:47 AM on Tuesday, July 13, 2004, tgpedersen wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...>
> wrote:

>> At 6:24:09 AM on Monday, July 12, 2004, tgpedersen wrote:

>> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Brian M. Scott"
>> > <BMScott@...> wrote:

>> >> Dauzat offers this as one of two possibilities, the other
>> >> being derivation from Old French <geuse> 'gorge',

>> > That would be 'd3ö:z&', or?

>> I don't know about the length, but otherwise that could be
>> right for some point in the 13th century; by the end of the
>> century /3öz&/.

>> According to Pope, the sequence is /eu/ > /öu/ > /ö/ for the
>> vowel, with the rounding of the first element taking place
>> in the 12th century and the monophthongization in the later
>> 12th and 13th centuries; the change /d3/ > /3/ is dated to
>> the 13th century.

> And that is why I have a problem with deriving /gö/ (with
> 'hard' /g/) from it.

Dauzat was apparently aware of a variant <gueuse>, which he
took to be from the same (Gaulish) root as <gosier>.

Brian