Re: [tied] Etymology of Gr. SkutHe:s 'Scythian'

Joao, you mention Gog, but how does this Biblical term fit in here?

-Michael


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao Simoes Lopes Filho"
<josimo70@...> wrote:

> How about SKYTHE:S < *SKHUTHE: < *(Z)gHug(W)He:- or (Z)gHug^H-, cf.
> Gog, and Sanskir Guha "name of a forest tribe and a savage hunter
> mentioned at Mahabharata". Perhaps Akkadian azguza fits in it.
>
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- Sergejus Tarasovas <S.Tarasovas@...> wrote:
> > > > From: Āąäčģ Ļīķąš˙äīā
> > > [mailto:ponaryad@...]
> > >
> > >
> > > > I do not know if Gr. skutHe:s is really connected
> > > with Old
> > > > Pers. saka-, but in Old Persian inscriptions (also
> > > in
> > > > Akkadian and Elamite versions) a form _skudra_ is
> > > present
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Yes, I know.
> > >
> > > >also in Akkadian
> > >
> > > But cf. Akk. as^guzai, is^kuzai 'Scythians'.
> > >
> > > > Phonetically Skudra is much closer to Skuthe:s
> > > > than Saka, isn't it?
> > >
> > > But sku:ca- (or sku:ça-) would look like a better
> > > candidate (if it really exists). Why, for one, would
> > > the Greeks just not render the name as *Skudrai? On
> > > the other hand, /tH/ looks like a probable
> > > substitution for a foreign s(h)ibilant affricate.
> >
> > *****GK: Way back in 1872 V. Yurgevich had argued that
> > "Borysthenes" and "Danapris" designated the same "
> > river+river" geographical point, with transposition of
> > parts and shifted sounds. Thus "Dana-pris" =
> > (tr.)"Thenes-borys" (one of those situations where a
> > river was known by different names at different
> > points, here both "Dana" or something like in the
> > south and "Borys" or something like it further north.
> > The point being that Greek "tH" could be the
> > equivalent of non Greek "d" (Greek "t" obviously
> > could: cf. Tanais). If Yurgevich was right, then
> > perhaps the "tH" in Skuthes might be the equivalent of
> > a "d" pointing to "Skud-" Would this lead us to
> > Skudra? Or to something else? In any caes the meaning
> > of the postulated "Skud**" is sometimes given as
> > "archer", "bowman". Does this sound plausible?******
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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