Re: [tied] IE words for monkey,ape : Ke:pos, Kapi, Apan, Opica,

Pithecusae refers to the island of Ischia off the coast of Italy. The
kerkopes themselves were originally said to be Lydian traders,
transformed into monkeys for their greed(according to Ovid).

Cort

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao" <josimo70@...> wrote:
> There are no monkeys in Caucasus or Anatolia. If PIE had a PIE word
for monkey, this place would be somewhere at Himalaya, Tibet, or
Northern India. That's why I agree with you.
> The origin of Celtic abranas must be some place from Northern
Africa or even Gibraltar (cf. Macaca sylvanus). Where are the
Pithecousa islands mentioned at Kekropes vs. Herakles legend?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: enlil@...
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 11:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] IE words for monkey,ape : Ke:pos, Kapi, Apan,
Opica, ABranas
>
>
> Joao:
> > Is there any explanation for the IE words for monkey?
> > Germanic apan
> > Old Russian opica
> > Celtic (Hesychius) abranas
> > Greek ke:pos, ke:bos
> > Sanskrit ka:pi
> >
> > A loanword? *Ha:p-, *Xa:p
>
> Gamrelidze and Ivanov reconstruct a word for 'monkey' in IE
> but I've already mentioned my distrust for their reconstructions.
> Personally, I'd say that it's more likely that the word entered
> these languages independently after the fracture of the IE
language
> area, although I don't know precisely from which language or
> languages offhand. Anybody else know a possible foreign source of
> the term?
>
>
> = gLeN
>
>
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