Re: [tied] Crete - The Land of Pillars

From: enlil@...
Message: 32591
Date: 2004-05-13

Nirmal:
> Like I said before - Vandersleyen - otherwise it's all
> just "I-say-you-say" which I find tiring.

Meaning that you have no arguements against this but that your
mind is too closed to explore new ideas, which is simply what
I'm doing.


> This is a debate that's been going on for about a 100 years

True, but I have an interesting and. compared to the other crackpots
online, nonfantastical translation for the Libation Formula found
over and over in Linear A script. In fact, the translation is quite
mundane.

Using Etruscan grammar as a guide, it would appear to be saying the
expected: "To Assaram (Assaram-e), a libation/libations (una/una-r)
is/are given (kan-asi)". Typically it is written as a single phrase
u-na-(rV)-ka-na-si and always on a libation table.

All of the nominal and verbal inflection is the same as found in
Etruscan. The verb /kan-/ is linked with Etruscan /cena/ "gift",
/una/ and /una-r/ with /un/ and /un-cHva/ and Assaram is quite
simply Ashtoreth Yam, the West Semitic goddess known as the
Lady of the Waters. Those extra pieces of insight help in
understanding Minoan grammar and religion on which basis my
analysis of a plural word *Kuptar meaning "stones" rests. By the
way, the Minoan plural would appear to be the same as in Etruscan
(-r) and their linguistic connection is hardly surprising given
that we know that the Etruscans came from Asia Minor. Architecture,
writing system, mythology and now linguistics shows that Herodotus'
account of the Tyrrhenoi was basically correct.


> Egad!! You certainly like to draw hurried and definite
> conclusions, don't you?? Why would you want me lulled
> by trade routes - and Indian ones at that, of all things???!!!

Because this was the connection you used. You mentioned "trade
with India" as if this was the be-all-and-end-all of the debate or
some important proof for your case. No need to exclamatize your
sentences to death. You evoked that conclusion yourself.


> As a rule, I say clear of pet theories.

There are those who think on their own and others who cannot.
Having a pet theory doesn't need to mean heresy. You can have
theories that compliment what is already known. You haven't
shown me what _facts_ negate the theory I put forth.


> And if you want Minoans with your Keftiu, who the hell
> am I to deny you that pleasure?? Enjoy!!!

Hmm, more exclamations. Doesn't one exclamation point suffice
or do you always indulge in melodrama? I would like you to
deny my pleasure with facts, not submerge me in textual
representations of unrespectable screaming, thanks.


= gLeN