From: tgpedersen
Message: 31767
Date: 2004-04-07
>So what you're saying is that the Sarmatians sent their brides (and
> (TP)How do you know
> > that what
> > happened was the arrival of "a certain number of
> > Sarmatian brides"
> > and not a migration.
>
> *****GK: Because Tacitus speaks of marriages, not of
> population shifts or mixed settlements, and because we
> have no archaeological evidence to indicate
> otherwise.******
>There is an enormous difference between arguing against a theory
> (TP)Don't forget that archaelogical
> > remains of the
> > Hunnic invasions wich were fairly substantial, I'd
> > say, have only
> > been found recently?
>
> *****GK: Your mind works in mysterious ways, Torsten.
> Nomadic cultures leave little evidence of course. Thus
> all we know of the very numerous Sarmatian complexes
> in the Eurasian steppes we gather from gravesites or
> from occasional finds in the material of more settled
> cultures. There was a bit of that available from
> Hunnic times before more recent discoveries added some
> more. But (try to follow, it's not that difficult),
> there is an enormous difference between positing the
> presence of Huns (and Sarmatians) in Eastern Europe
> even in the context of archaeological "poverty" and
> arguing Odinist fantasies.
>We have a substantialAre we talking written sources? Snorri is one.
> number of historical documentation on Huns and
> Sarmatians. And THAT, my good fellow, is precisely
> what we do not have concerning the mythical "Odin"
> migration from "Asgard".
>Now as to the missingI understand that I'm an idiot and not entitled to propose a
> archaeological evidence of Sarmatian migration into
> Bastarnia. (Pay attention) It has been pointed out to
> you repeatedly (I did it, and most recently Piotr)
> that it is not up to those who do not accept your
> baseless contentions to "prove" them wrong: you are
> methodologically not entitled to make them, and it is
> up to you to advance at least something which might
> back a hypothesis. You can't simply fantasize and then
> proclaim "disprove this!". This is an infantile
> approach. The sooner you realize this the better.