Re: [tied] Whence Grimm?

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> perhaps one should now try to assign the various
> components of
> the Germanic vocabulary to "southern Jastorf" and
> "Przeworsk"
> respectively. Since the Przeworsk culture must have
> been the
> dominating one, basically there are two
> possibilities: Germanic, the
> result of that mix, is:
>
> 1) Przeworski on a Jastorf substrate
>
> or
>
> 2) Jastorf with loans from Przeworski
>
> I am reminded of the river Tanew, possibly < *danew-
> which Piotr
> brought into the discussion a long time ago. Now as
> far as I know,
> Przeworsk didn't stretch all the way to the Tanew,
> but was in contact
> with cultures that did. If there is a connection the
> Grimm sound
> shift was a speech habit the Przeworski's brought
> into this new
> culture.
>
> Now the question is whether I continue with this
> quest, Oder Warthe?
>
> Torsten

*****GK: Note that the Przeworsk culture was
constituted in the 3rd c. BC and evolved from the
fusion of various elements: Jastorf + "local"
(varieties of Late Lusatian) + La Tene. The prevailing
view today is that Przeworsk was fundamentally an East
Germanic (eventually Vandalic) complex, in which the
Celtic and "local" components dissolved. So both of
your possibilities ( (1) and (2) above) seem to
involve Germanic influencing Germanic.******



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