Re: [tied] Re: Accusative was allative

From: Âàäèì Ïîíàðÿäîâ
Message: 31540
Date: 2004-03-24

>A good idea, I think, especially in connecting the nominal
accusative with personal pronominal one...
>But note that the origin of
the suffix is not necessarily from a relative (or interrogative?) pronoun. A better candidate would be the oblique stem of a demonstrative. It is possible to reconstruct deictic stems *wo and *mo in PIE

Can you expand on that?  Where do we find *mo or *wo in IE?

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Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
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The pronominal stem *wo is well-attested in Slavic: Serbian e-vo "this" (cf. e-no "that"), Macedonian -va (an enclitic article) etc. Surely it is found also in Tocharian, and perhaps somewhere else. There are fewer traces of demonstrative *mo, but they exist in Anatolian (Lycian me), Indo-Aryan (as long as I know, only in Singhalese) and perhaps in Celtic. Although none of known IE languages demonstrates their suppletive opposition, its existence is quite probable for some early stage, because it may belong to the same suppletive system that incluedes personal 1Sg *we : *me-, 2Sg *se : *te- and demonstrative *so : *to-. Note that the 2rd person deixis is shown not only in the personal *se : *te-, but also in the demonstrative *so : *to- (cf. Lat. is-te) being an ablaut-form of the former, and analogeously the demonstrative *wo : mo- must be an ablaut-form of the personal *we : me-. At last, a very good Nostratic similarity is found in Turkic, where (e.g., in Kazakh, but also in many other languages) a demonstrative bu "this" forms its oblique cases with a stem mu- (gen. mu-nyng, dat. mu-ghan, acc. mu-ny etc.).